From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Sat Apr  4 12:00:01 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org)
Date: Sat,  4 Apr 2009 12:00:01 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Current open tickets
Message-ID: <20090404110002.1F3FE325044@www.boxbackup.org>

Note: to view an indiviual ticket, use:
  https://www.boxbackup.org/trac/ticket/(number)

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by Box Backup users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Ticket Owner    Component                             Summary                           
- ------ ------ ------------- ------------------------------------------------------------
n      4 martin box libraries Port Box Backup to AIX
n      6        box libraries Contribute code: SMTP client, HTTP server, Database drivers,
n      7        box libraries Improve restore speed on local repositories
n      8 chris  box libraries Improve handling of directories with many files
n     13 chris  bbackupd      Fix file locking on Windows
n     14 chris  bbackupd      Fix large file issues on Windows
n     16 chris  bbackupquery  Restore deleted directories may fail
a     17 chris  bbackupquery  List files using wildcards
a     20 chris  bbackupctl    bbackupctl reload reports prior settings
n     45 ben    bbackupd      File diff performance patch (reduced disk IO and wall time
n     46 chris  bbackupd      bbackupd only ever saves reverse diffs, corrupted files on s
n     47 chris  bbackupd      Account numbers greater than 2^31 (0x7fffffff) do not work c
n     48 chris  bbackupd      Locations that don't exist on first run are never tried agai
n     49 chris  bbackupd      ID map (rename tracking) broken since [288]
n     50 chris  bbackupquery  No way to capture stderr under Windows
n     51 chris  bbackupd      No way to force bbackupd to re-upload files under Windows
n     52 chris  bbackupd      Unable to control the maintenance of old vs. deleted files
n     53 chris  bbackupd      Comparing root directory locations does not work under Windo
n     54 chris  bbackupd      Locations not found on disk (e.g. unmounted filesystems) can
n     55 chris  bbackupd      Should store and preserve directory timestamps
20 tickets total.


From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Sat Apr 11 12:00:00 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:00:00 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Current open tickets
Message-ID: <20090411110000.B6923325039@www.boxbackup.org>

Note: to view an indiviual ticket, use:
  https://www.boxbackup.org/trac/ticket/(number)

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by Box Backup users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Ticket Owner    Component                             Summary                           
- ------ ------ ------------- ------------------------------------------------------------
n      4 martin box libraries Port Box Backup to AIX
n      6        box libraries Contribute code: SMTP client, HTTP server, Database drivers,
n      7        box libraries Improve restore speed on local repositories
n      8 chris  box libraries Improve handling of directories with many files
n     13 chris  bbackupd      Fix file locking on Windows
n     14 chris  bbackupd      Fix large file issues on Windows
n     16 chris  bbackupquery  Restore deleted directories may fail
a     17 chris  bbackupquery  List files using wildcards
a     20 chris  bbackupctl    bbackupctl reload reports prior settings
n     45 ben    bbackupd      File diff performance patch (reduced disk IO and wall time
n     46 chris  bbackupd      bbackupd only ever saves reverse diffs, corrupted files on s
n     47 chris  bbackupd      Account numbers greater than 2^31 (0x7fffffff) do not work c
n     48 chris  bbackupd      Locations that don't exist on first run are never tried agai
n     49 chris  bbackupd      ID map (rename tracking) broken since [288]
n     50 chris  bbackupquery  No way to capture stderr under Windows
n     51 chris  bbackupd      No way to force bbackupd to re-upload files under Windows
n     52 chris  bbackupd      Unable to control the maintenance of old vs. deleted files
n     53 chris  bbackupd      Comparing root directory locations does not work under Windo
n     54 chris  bbackupd      Locations not found on disk (e.g. unmounted filesystems) can
n     55 chris  bbackupd      Should store and preserve directory timestamps
20 tickets total.


From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Sat Apr 18 12:00:01 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:00:01 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Current open tickets
Message-ID: <20090418110002.00E05325FF1@www.boxbackup.org>

Note: to view an indiviual ticket, use:
  https://www.boxbackup.org/trac/ticket/(number)

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by Box Backup users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Ticket Owner    Component                             Summary                           
- ------ ------ ------------- ------------------------------------------------------------
n      4 martin box libraries Port Box Backup to AIX
n      6        box libraries Contribute code: SMTP client, HTTP server, Database drivers,
n      7        box libraries Improve restore speed on local repositories
n      8 chris  box libraries Improve handling of directories with many files
n     13 chris  bbackupd      Fix file locking on Windows
n     14 chris  bbackupd      Fix large file issues on Windows
n     16 chris  bbackupquery  Restore deleted directories may fail
a     17 chris  bbackupquery  List files using wildcards
a     20 chris  bbackupctl    bbackupctl reload reports prior settings
n     45 ben    bbackupd      File diff performance patch (reduced disk IO and wall time
n     46 chris  bbackupd      bbackupd only ever saves reverse diffs, corrupted files on s
n     47 chris  bbackupd      Account numbers greater than 2^31 (0x7fffffff) do not work c
n     48 chris  bbackupd      Locations that don't exist on first run are never tried agai
n     49 chris  bbackupd      ID map (rename tracking) broken since [288]
n     50 chris  bbackupquery  No way to capture stderr under Windows
n     51 chris  bbackupd      No way to force bbackupd to re-upload files under Windows
n     52 chris  bbackupd      Unable to control the maintenance of old vs. deleted files
n     53 chris  bbackupd      Comparing root directory locations does not work under Windo
n     54 chris  bbackupd      Locations not found on disk (e.g. unmounted filesystems) can
n     55 chris  bbackupd      Should store and preserve directory timestamps
20 tickets total.


From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Thu Apr 23 20:33:47 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (James O'Gorman)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:33:47 +0100
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup-commit] COMMIT r2505 - box/trunk/contrib/rpm
In-Reply-To: <20090423000111.69E52325020@www.boxbackup.org>
References: <20090423000111.69E52325020@www.boxbackup.org>
Message-ID: <49F0C29B.5070207@netinertia.co.uk>

On 23/4/09 01:01, subversion@boxbackup.org wrote:
> Author: martin

Welcome back!

James

From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Thu Apr 23 21:03:44 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (Martin Ebourne)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:03:44 +0100
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup-commit] COMMIT r2505 -
 box/trunk/contrib/rpm
In-Reply-To: <49F0C29B.5070207@netinertia.co.uk>
References: <20090423000111.69E52325020@www.boxbackup.org>
 <49F0C29B.5070207@netinertia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1240517024.3541.4.camel@avenin.ebourne.me.uk>

On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 20:33 +0100, James O'Gorman wrote:
> On 23/4/09 01:01, subversion@boxbackup.org wrote:
> > Author: martin
> 
> Welcome back!

Thanks! Unfortunately it'll be a fleeting visit. The two boys (3 and 2
now) keep us so busy there's no spare time coding any more. Not beyond
occasional compile fixes for new Fedora versions in the early hours.

Still, Chris is doing good work at least (though you should make a
release one day, even if it isn't perfect!).

Cheers,
Martin


From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Sat Apr 25 12:00:01 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:00:01 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Current open tickets
Message-ID: <20090425110001.770C1325039@www.boxbackup.org>

Note: to view an indiviual ticket, use:
  https://www.boxbackup.org/trac/ticket/(number)

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by Box Backup users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Ticket Owner    Component                             Summary                           
- ------ ------ ------------- ------------------------------------------------------------
n      4 martin box libraries Port Box Backup to AIX
n      6        box libraries Contribute code: SMTP client, HTTP server, Database drivers,
n      7        box libraries Improve restore speed on local repositories
n      8 chris  box libraries Improve handling of directories with many files
n     13 chris  bbackupd      Fix file locking on Windows
n     14 chris  bbackupd      Fix large file issues on Windows
n     16 chris  bbackupquery  Restore deleted directories may fail
a     17 chris  bbackupquery  List files using wildcards
a     20 chris  bbackupctl    bbackupctl reload reports prior settings
n     45 ben    bbackupd      File diff performance patch (reduced disk IO and wall time
n     46 chris  bbackupd      bbackupd only ever saves reverse diffs, corrupted files on s
n     47 chris  bbackupd      Account numbers greater than 2^31 (0x7fffffff) do not work c
n     48 chris  bbackupd      Locations that don't exist on first run are never tried agai
n     49 chris  bbackupd      ID map (rename tracking) broken since [288]
n     50 chris  bbackupquery  No way to capture stderr under Windows
n     51 chris  bbackupd      No way to force bbackupd to re-upload files under Windows
n     52 chris  bbackupd      Unable to control the maintenance of old vs. deleted files
n     53 chris  bbackupd      Comparing root directory locations does not work under Windo
n     54 chris  bbackupd      Locations not found on disk (e.g. unmounted filesystems) can
n     55 chris  bbackupd      Should store and preserve directory timestamps
20 tickets total.


From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Sun Apr 26 21:51:01 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (James O'Gorman)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:51:01 +0100
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup-commit] COMMIT r2515 - in box/trunk/docs: .
 docbook xsl-generic xsl-generic/common xsl-generic/highlighting
 xsl-generic/html xsl-generic/lib xsl-generic/manpages
In-Reply-To: <20090426200117.E385A32501F@www.boxbackup.org>
References: <20090426200117.E385A32501F@www.boxbackup.org>
Message-ID: <20090426205101.GA66276@netinertia.co.uk>

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 09:01:17PM +0100, subversion@boxbackup.org wrote:
> Author: chris
> Date: 2009-04-26 21:01:15 +0100 (Sun, 26 Apr 2009)
> New Revision: 2515
> 
> Added:
[lots]
> Removed:
>    box/trunk/docs/docbook/bb-man.xsl.tmpl
> Modified:
>    box/trunk/docs/Makefile
> Log:
> Add a local copy of the XSL stylesheets needed to build Box Backup docs,
> as remote copies are slow and prone to failure and weird behaviour with
> different versions of xsltproc (e.g. on Cygwin).

I'm afraid I don't understand the reasoning for this. Can't we just make
it a requirement for people who want to build the docs manually to
install a minimum (or specific) version of xsltproc and the stylesheets?

To be honest I don't see why we need to bloat our tree with third-party
sources which will get out of date...

(Also, 5.5MB commit messages fail. Thunderbird ground to a halt and I
had to switch back to mutt.)

James

From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Sun Apr 26 23:37:14 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (Chris Wilson)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:37:14 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] COMMIT r2515 - in box/trunk/docs: . docbook
 xsl-generic xsl-generic/common xsl-generic/highlighting xsl-generic/html
 xsl-generic/lib xsl-generic/manpages
In-Reply-To: <20090426205101.GA66276@netinertia.co.uk>
References: <20090426200117.E385A32501F@www.boxbackup.org> <20090426205101.GA66276@netinertia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904262333040.5211@localhost>

Hi James,

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, James O'Gorman wrote:

>> Add a local copy of the XSL stylesheets needed to build Box Backup 
>> docs, as remote copies are slow and prone to failure and weird 
>> behaviour with different versions of xsltproc (e.g. on Cygwin).
>
> I'm afraid I don't understand the reasoning for this. Can't we just make 
> it a requirement for people who want to build the docs manually to 
> install a minimum (or specific) version of xsltproc and the stylesheets?

I did ask about it a few weeks ago and nobody complained. The problem is 
that the online versions are (a) not usable without an internet 
connection, (b) slow, and (c) don't work at all on cygwin. The only way 
that I could get the docs to build at all on cygwin was this.

> To be honest I don't see why we need to bloat our tree with third-party 
> sources which will get out of date...

The bloat argument I understand, and I'm sure we can trim down the fileset 
somewhat. But do we care if they get out of date? I don't understand why 
they would need to update the generation of the HTML files. Either we're 
happy with them as they are, or we're not. If we don't change anything and 
continue to use online copies, the most likely thing to happen is that 
they will be moved or changed in a way that breaks backwards 
compatibility.

> (Also, 5.5MB commit messages fail. Thunderbird ground to a halt and I 
> had to switch back to mutt.)

Sorry, I wasn't expecting them to actually make it through to the list. 
Shouldn't we have a size limit on list messages?

Cheers, Chris.
-- 
_____ __     _
\  __/ / ,__(_)_  | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK |
/ (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Ruby/Perl/SQL Developer |
\__/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU : free your mind & your software |

From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Thu Apr 30 20:24:21 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (James O'Gorman)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:24:21 +0100
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] COMMIT r2515 - in box/trunk/docs: . docbook
 xsl-generic xsl-generic/common xsl-generic/highlighting xsl-generic/html
 xsl-generic/lib xsl-generic/manpages
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904262333040.5211@localhost>
References: <20090426200117.E385A32501F@www.boxbackup.org> <20090426205101.GA66276@netinertia.co.uk> <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904262333040.5211@localhost>
Message-ID: <49F9FAE5.2040007@netinertia.co.uk>

On 26/4/09 23:37, Chris Wilson wrote:
> I did ask about it a few weeks ago and nobody complained.

Ah, that might've been when MailMan helpfully unsubscribed me for no 
reason. :-(

> The problem is that the online versions are (a) not usable without an
> internet connection, (b) slow, and (c) don't work at all on cygwin.
> The only way that I could get the docs to build at all on cygwin was
> this.

Yes, I do understand the purpose of it. I just think perhaps we should 
ask people to install docbook as a prerequisite (as they would for gcc, 
autoconf, etc)...

> The bloat argument I understand, and I'm sure we can trim down the
> fileset somewhat. But do we care if they get out of date? I don't
> understand why they would need to update the generation of the HTML
> files. Either we're happy with them as they are, or we're not. If we
> don't change anything and continue to use online copies, the most likely
> thing to happen is that they will be moved or changed in a way that
> breaks backwards compatibility.

Fair enough. Let's see how it goes I suppose. I was more thinking that 
if we ever wanted to use new features in DocBook we'd have to reimport..

> Sorry, I wasn't expecting them to actually make it through to the list.
> Shouldn't we have a size limit on list messages?

There is for boxbackup@ and -dev@ but I disabled it for -commit@ some 
time back because some commits weren't getting through and I thought 
it'd be better to have the messages than not.. obviously not expecting 
such large commits to be made!

James

From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Thu Apr 30 21:27:44 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (Chris Wilson)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:27:44 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] COMMIT r2515 - in box/trunk/docs: . docbook
 xsl-generic xsl-generic/common xsl-generic/highlighting xsl-generic/html
 xsl-generic/lib xsl-generic/manpages
In-Reply-To: <49F9FAE5.2040007@netinertia.co.uk>
References: <20090426200117.E385A32501F@www.boxbackup.org> <20090426205101.GA66276@netinertia.co.uk> <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904262333040.5211@localhost> <49F9FAE5.2040007@netinertia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904302126050.5211@localhost>

Hi James,

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, James O'Gorman wrote:

>>  The problem is that the online versions are (a) not usable without an
>>  internet connection, (b) slow, and (c) don't work at all on cygwin.
>>  The only way that I could get the docs to build at all on cygwin was
>>  this.
>
> Yes, I do understand the purpose of it. I just think perhaps we should 
> ask people to install docbook as a prerequisite (as they would for gcc, 
> autoconf, etc)...

Unfortunately that's not enough for cygwin. The cygwin versions appear to 
be equally broken.

>>  The bloat argument I understand, and I'm sure we can trim down the
>>  fileset somewhat. But do we care if they get out of date? I don't
>>  understand why they would need to update the generation of the HTML
>>  files. Either we're happy with them as they are, or we're not. If we
>>  don't change anything and continue to use online copies, the most likely
>>  thing to happen is that they will be moved or changed in a way that
>>  breaks backwards compatibility.
>
> Fair enough. Let's see how it goes I suppose. I was more thinking that if we 
> ever wanted to use new features in DocBook we'd have to reimport..

What kind of new features?

>>  Sorry, I wasn't expecting them to actually make it through to the
>>  list. Shouldn't we have a size limit on list messages?
>
> There is for boxbackup@ and -dev@ but I disabled it for -commit@ some 
> time back because some commits weren't getting through and I thought 
> it'd be better to have the messages than not.. obviously not expecting 
> such large commits to be made!

Would you mind changing it back? I think it's a good idea. Perhaps the 
limit should be different, e.g. 250 kB, given the relatively small number 
of people on the -commit list.

Cheers, Chris.
-- 
_____ __     _
\  __/ / ,__(_)_  | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK |
/ (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Ruby/Perl/SQL Developer |
\__/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU : free your mind & your software |

From boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org  Thu Apr 30 23:43:04 2009
From: boxbackup-dev@boxbackup.org (James O'Gorman)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:43:04 +0100
Subject: [Box Backup-dev] COMMIT r2515 - in box/trunk/docs: . docbook
 xsl-generic xsl-generic/common xsl-generic/highlighting xsl-generic/html
 xsl-generic/lib xsl-generic/manpages
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904302126050.5211@localhost>
References: <20090426200117.E385A32501F@www.boxbackup.org> <20090426205101.GA66276@netinertia.co.uk> <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904262333040.5211@localhost> <49F9FAE5.2040007@netinertia.co.uk> <alpine.LRH.2.00.0904302126050.5211@localhost>
Message-ID: <49FA2978.5080208@netinertia.co.uk>

On 30/4/09 21:27, Chris Wilson wrote:
> Unfortunately that's not enough for cygwin. The cygwin versions appear
> to be equally broken.

Oh dear :-(

> What kind of new features?

It was a for-instance. I've not got anything in particular in mind. 
Having spent a week working on the docs last time I'm quite happy to not 
touch them for a while. :-)

> Would you mind changing it back? I think it's a good idea. Perhaps the
> limit should be different, e.g. 250 kB, given the relatively small
> number of people on the -commit list.

Sure, done.

James

