[IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
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its obvious that most people dont realize how edited an Obama interview is. He is a humm and hawwer. Doesnt mean that he is stupid just that unless he has a teleprompter he comes accross as a appaling bumpkin, exactly the reason he wont do town halls and insists on only 3 debates. The press is actively campeigning for Obama and will edit interviews to benefit him
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From: Bill Patient <bepatient@cfl.rr.com>
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:56 am
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
Its bullshit. Its recognized by all as bullshit. Its "how does the press create
talking points" 101. Even the stupid american population isn't that stupid.
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From: iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk [mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk]On
Behalf Of Peter Whysall
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:23 AM
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
It was a stupid thing for Palin to say.
I've never heard Kissinger say "Y'know, I think that axe-murdering one's
children and making soup out of them is bad", either, but I know what his
position on lumberjack child cookery is.
The lack of contradiction means that she accepted the interviewer's position,
which was that she thought Kissinger was nave. If she didn't want to say that,
she should have said "No, I'm not saying that."
This is semantics, yes. The semantics matter, though.
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From: iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk [mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk] On Behalf Of
williamoxley@aim.com
Sent: 26 September 2008 15:18
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leade
rs
without preconditions being met." that contradicts couric trying to link
kissinger with obama statement
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Whysall <Peter.Whysall@serco.com>
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:13 am
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
She made a piss-poor job of not-calling-Kissinger-na ve, then.
In a "yes, she did call him nave because when specifically asked if she was
calling him na ve, she failed to contradict the interviewer" kind of way.
Too busy reading the internal script, it looks like.
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williamoxley@aim.com
Sent: 26 September 2008 15:08
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
I was pointing out to Jay that she was not calling20Kissinger naive as he
claims.
As to her statements on preconditioned negotiations she is towing the party
line.
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Whysall <Peter.Whysall@serco.com>
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:03 am
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
The point is not just that she's wrong, but also that, in talking such cack, she
demonises a country whose population is a lot more positive towards America than
America deserves.
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From: iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk [mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk] On Behalf Of
williamoxley@aim.com
Sent: 26 September 2008 14:54
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
reading for comprehension
***************************
Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...
Palin: It's dangerous.
Couric: ... is nave for supporting that?
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leade
rs
without preconditions being met."
******************************
she calls obama naive, couric tries to extrapolate that to kissinger and palin
rebutss
thanx,
bill
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From: Jay Mehaffey=2
0<jaym667@yahoo.com>
To: IWETHEY Mailing List <iwe@warhead.org.uk>
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:47 am
Subject: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive
Another jaw dropping moment of stupidity. You can Kissinger wrong, you can call
him evil, but trying to call him naive is idiotic.
Jay
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ilan-goldenberg/palin-calls-kissinger-nai_b_129445.html?view=print
Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is
for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should
negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?
Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with.
You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack Obama
is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders
around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without
preconditions being met. That's beyond na ve. And it's beyond bad judgment.
Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...
Palin: I
t's dangerous.
Couric: ... is nave for supporting that?
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders
without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background
work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions
perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right. That's part of
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<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">its obvious that most people dont realize how edited an Obama interview is. He is a humm and hawwer. Doesnt mean that he is stupid just that unless he has a teleprompter he comes accross as a appaling bumpkin, exactly the reason he wont do town halls and insists on only 3 debates. The press is actively campeigning for Obama and will edit interviews to benefit him</font><br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bill Patient <bepatient@cfl.rr.com><br>
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk<br>
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:56 am<br>
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
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<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>Its bullshit. Its recognized by all as bullshit. Its "how does the press create <br>
talking points" 101. Even the stupid american population isn't that stupid.<br>
<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk">iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk%5DOn?">mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk]On</a><br>
Behalf Of Peter Whysall<br>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:23 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:iwe@warhead.org.uk">iwe@warhead.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
<br>
<br>
It was a stupid thing for Palin to say.<br>
<br>
I've never heard Kissinger say "Y'know, I think that axe-murdering one's <br>
children and making soup out of them is bad", either, but I know what his <br>
position on lumberjack child cookery is.<br>
<br>
The lack of contradiction means that she accepted the interviewer's position, <br>
which was that she thought Kissinger was nave. If she didn't want to say that, <br>
she should have said "No, I'm not saying that."<br>
<br>
This is semantics, yes. The semantics matter, though.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk">iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk?">mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk</a>] On Behalf Of <br>
<a href="mailto:williamoxley@aim.com">williamoxley@aim.com</a><br>
Sent: 26 September 2008 15:18<br>
To: <a href="mailto:iwe@warhead.org.uk">iwe@warhead.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leade<br>
rs <br>
without preconditions being met." that contradicts couric trying to link <br>
kissinger with obama statement<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Peter Whysall <<a href="mailto:Peter.Whysall@serco.com">Peter.Whysall@serco.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:iwe@warhead.org.uk">iwe@warhead.org.uk</a><br>
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:13 am<br>
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
<br>
<br>
She made a piss-poor job of not-calling-Kissinger-na ve, then.<br>
<br>
In a "yes, she did call him nave because when specifically asked if she was <br>
calling him na ve, she failed to contradict the interviewer" kind of way.<br>
<br>
Too busy reading the internal script, it looks like.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk">iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk?">mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk</a>] On Behalf Of <br>
<a href="mailto:williamoxley@aim.com">williamoxley@aim.com</a><br>
Sent: 26 September 2008 15:08<br>
To: <a href="mailto:iwe@warhead.org.uk">iwe@warhead.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
<br>
<br>
I was pointing out to Jay that she was not calling20Kissinger naive as he <br>
claims. <br>
As to her statements on preconditioned negotiations she is towing the party <br>
line. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Peter Whysall <<a href="mailto:Peter.Whysall@serco.com">Peter.Whysall@serco.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:iwe@warhead.org.uk">iwe@warhead.org.uk</a><br>
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:03 am<br>
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
<br>
<br>
The point is not just that she's wrong, but also that, in talking such cack, she <br>
<br>
<br>
demonises a country whose population is a lot more positive towards America than <br>
<br>
<br>
America deserves.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk">iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk?">mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk</a>] On Behalf Of <br>
<a href="mailto:williamoxley@aim.com">williamoxley@aim.com</a><br>
Sent: 26 September 2008 14:54<br>
To: <a href="mailto:iwe@warhead.org.uk">iwe@warhead.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
<br>
<br>
reading for comprehension<br>
<br>
***************************<br>
<br>
Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...<br>
Palin: It's dangerous.<br>
Couric: ... is nave for supporting that?<br>
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leade<br>
rs <br>
without preconditions being met." <br>
<br>
******************************<br>
she calls obama naive, couric tries to extrapolate that to kissinger and palin <br>
rebutss<br>
thanx,<br>
bill<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jay Mehaffey=2<br>
0<<a href="mailto:jaym667@yahoo.com">jaym667@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: IWETHEY Mailing List <<a href="mailto:iwe@warhead.org.uk">iwe@warhead.org.uk</a>><br>
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:47 am<br>
Subject: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive<br>
<br>
<br>
Another jaw dropping moment of stupidity. You can Kissinger wrong, you can call <br>
him evil, but trying to call him naive is idiotic.<br>
<br>
Jay<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ilan-goldenberg/palin-calls-kissinger-nai_b_129445.html?view=print" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ilan-goldenberg/palin-calls-kissinger-nai_b_129445.html?view=print</a><br>
<br>
Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is <br>
<br>
<br>
for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should <br>
negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?<br>
Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with. <br>
You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack Obama <br>
is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders <br>
<br>
<br>
around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without <br>
preconditions being met. That's beyond na ve. And it's beyond bad judgment.<br>
Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...<br>
Palin: I<br>
t's dangerous.<br>
Couric: ... is nave for supporting that?<br>
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders <br>
<br>
<br>
without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background <br>
work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions <br>
perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right. That's part of <br>
diplomacy.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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