[IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive

Bill Patient iwe@warhead.org.uk
Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:56:26 -0400


Its bullshit. Its recognized by all as bullshit. Its "how does the press =
create talking points" 101. Even the stupid american population isn't =
that stupid.

-----Original Message-----
From: iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk [mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk]On
Behalf Of Peter Whysall
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:23 AM
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive


It was a stupid thing for Palin to say.

I've never heard Kissinger say "Y'know, I think that axe-murdering one's =
children and making soup out of them is bad", either, but I know what =
his position on lumberjack child cookery is.

The lack of contradiction means that she accepted the interviewer's =
position, which was that she thought Kissinger was nave. If she didn't =
want to say that, she should have said "No, I'm not saying that."

This is semantics, yes. The semantics matter, though.




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Behalf Of williamoxley@aim.com
Sent: 26 September 2008 15:18
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive




Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these =
leade
rs=20
without preconditions being met." that contradicts couric trying to link =
kissinger with obama statement








-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Whysall <Peter.Whysall@serco.com>
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:13 am
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive


She made a piss-poor job of not-calling-Kissinger-na ve, then.

In a "yes, she did call him nave because when specifically asked if she =
was=20
calling him na ve, she failed to contradict the interviewer" kind of =
way.

Too busy reading the internal script, it looks like.

-----Original Message-----
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williamoxley@aim.com
Sent: 26 September 2008 15:08
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Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive


I was pointing out to Jay that she was not calling20Kissinger naive as =
he claims.=20
As to her statements on preconditioned negotiations  she is towing the =
party=20
line.=20





-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Whysall <Peter.Whysall@serco.com>
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:03 am
Subject: RE: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive


The point is not just that she's wrong, but also that, in talking such =
cack, she=20

demonises a country whose population is a lot more positive towards =
America than=20

America deserves.

-----Original Message-----
From: iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk [mailto:iwe-admin@warhead.org.uk] On =
Behalf Of=20
williamoxley@aim.com
Sent: 26 September 2008 14:54
To: iwe@warhead.org.uk
Subject: Re: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive


reading for comprehension

***************************

Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...
Palin: It's dangerous.
Couric: ... is nave for supporting that?
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these =
leade
rs=20
without preconditions being met."=20

******************************
she calls obama naive, couric tries to extrapolate that to kissinger and =
palin=20
rebutss
thanx,
bill



-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Mehaffey=3D2
0<jaym667@yahoo.com>
To: IWETHEY Mailing List <iwe@warhead.org.uk>
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:47 am
Subject: [IWE] Sara Palin calls Kissinger naive


Another jaw dropping moment of stupidity. You can Kissinger wrong, you =
can call=20
him evil, but trying to call him naive is idiotic.

Jay

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ilan-goldenberg/palin-calls-kissinger-nai_b=
_129445.html?view=3Dprint

Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry =
Kissinger, who is=20

for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. =
should=20
negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?
Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate =
with.=20
You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack =
Obama=20
is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these =
leaders=20

around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without =

preconditions being met. That's beyond na ve. And it's beyond bad =
judgment.
Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...
Palin: I
t's dangerous.
Couric: ... is nave for supporting that?
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these =
leaders=20

without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of =
background=20
work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what =
sanctions=20
perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right. That's =
part of=20
diplomacy.



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